So I was just fired for not showing up to clen grout on Monday. Mondays I am UNAVALIABLE. Also, I have worked with the company for 1 1/2 years and have never received a verbal or written warning. I was terminated just like that...
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Fired for being unavaliable
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Posted 4 years ago #
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Well, it might suck, but if you were on the schedule to work, and didn't show up, then, well a company (and many times will) fire you for that. It’s what they call a "non-negotiable" meaning, you won't get a warning, or write up, it’s a fire-able offense on the first occurrence. Sorry.
Did you tell them you wouldn't be working that day?Posted 4 years ago # -
It actually has nothing to do with that..my SM is racist
Posted 4 years ago # -
wow that is horrible, you should talk to your dm or something
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I'm sorry, I had no idea. Your first post did no mention any racism. I am still unclear then as to why you were fired? No company in America is dumb enough to fire someone for race, even if that is the case, they will blame it on something else. Again, I am unclear as to why you were fired?
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Process of elimination...to make a long story short...since my manager took over our store, there is 3 of the original baristas there. He has managed to harrass people to quit or fire them. I had baristas calling me up in tears. We have had 2 meetings dealing with how immature and unprofessional he has been. DM does nothing about it. I called her multiple times since WED and she will not return my calls or answer for that matter. No excuse! unless someone died
Posted 4 years ago # -
sounds like your DM is just a jerk, plain and simple. They probably aren't racist, they just hate everyone.
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sorry parrotheadkrm... the dm is par for the course at starbucks.
Posted 4 years ago # -
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I'm not saying they are, but they mention them being racist, I'm just saying that from the info moondollars has given us, I'm just saying it doesn't sound like race has anything to do with it, just that the dm is just an a$$. Nothing they have told us indicates racism at all, aside from the fact they called the dm a racist. That is a serious thing to charge someone with, and if you are going to throw around an accusation like that, back it up. That is the point I am trying to get across.Posted 4 years ago # -
ummm i think you should realize that u were fired because you didnt show up..not because of your race. iam sick of people blaming their shortcomings on other people being racist towards them.
Posted 4 years ago # -
Just because I'm white doesn't mean I can't play the race card just like everyone else.
Posted 4 years ago # -
lol. i wasnt expecting that
Posted 4 years ago # -
Your right, doesn't mean you can't, but it does't mean you should either.
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you shouldnt have been fired. if you submitted on your availability sheet that you are unavailable on Mondays it is up to your SM to find some who IS available to work on mondays to clean the stupid drains. definately track down your DM
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I am a former 15 year partner reently laid off in the first go-round, so i have the right to be bitter. but... well maybe you don't really see the both sides, SM's and DM's are under a lot of pressure right now, so let's try and give a little leway to those operating these stores under such pressure, i was a SM for 10 years and I can tell you, it is a very stressful and thankless position, especially for all you partners who have a "new" different availability every week or two, this is a BUISINESS, after all.
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I have sympathy to formerpartner66, I was once a manager for a bar and when someone's availability changed every other week with very little rhyme or reason- and I am not talking about "I am unavailable to work this particular Sunday because of such and such" I'm talking about "Oh, I can't work Sundays anymore" to "I can't work Saturdays anymore, but I can do every other Sunday" to "I can't work weekends anymore" all in the matter of a month.
People need to understand that regardless of their other schedules, SBUX is indeed a business, and there are certain expectations with regards to scheduling. If I ever hired anyone under a certain availability agreement, then I would always work with the person to make sure it's a harmonious schedule.
I also worked for a company that sells **** mineral makeup and is the laughingstock of the cosmetics world (and their CEO looks like horse) with a very racist and sexist DM. She managed to find a way to drive out all the men from the shop, and the women of color. I don't know if she is still there, but she was really gross anyway.
Point is, if you made your availability very clear to the SM and was explicitly unavailable for certain days, and was scheduled to be there on said day, you should have made sure that the schedule was changed. And if that wasn't done, then go to the DM, RM and whatnot. And if the SM was racist, and you have substantial proof (because he said/she said in reality won't work) take to the higher ups. Go as high as what's his name and if nothing happens, take it to the local action line or shame on you or something. Do it tactfully, though. Don't embarass yourself when the real jerks are the people who are d!cking you over.
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Communication and accountability are two things which are sorely lacking in most SMs. I know they have a lot of paperwork and reports to do, but they need to look to the people who essentially run their stores for them. And I'm not referring to the shifts or ASMs. It's the regular everyday baristas who have contact with the customers who are making legendary service possible. When there is a communication breakdown, the only recourse anyone has is to go to the next highest level of management. This entire "availability" issue is something that plagues each and every store. Flexible hours means just that. People who are in college or high school are going to have limited availability, but they are needed and just as valuable as a person who has "open availability"
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If you haven't changed your availability in the last six months, per Starbucks regulations, then you shouldn't have been scheduled for that Monday, NOR should you have been terminated for such an offense.
If I were you, I'd call my DM and if he doesn't do anything, I'd call the Partner Contact Center with Human Resources and file a complaint. You'll get results either way.
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No. If you were scheduled outside of your availability, it was still your responsibility to make this fact known to your SM. If you didn't do that, and didn't get it covered, or didn't show up....it is your own fault.
Yes, the SM made a mistake, but you did, too, if you didn't make sure things would come out ok.
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Um, excuse me, but i've read this post and it is your responsibility to ensure that you don't schedule outside of the availability forms--thats what they're for dumb ****... Thats why it is in your job description to do scheduling. I don't have to tell you jack ****--you should be on top of that! ITS YOUR FAULT AND NO ONE ELSES!!! Good lord, its people like you that contribute to the high turnover rate and the sabotage of starbucks...
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Nope....store managers are not superhuman. They are capable of making mistakes, just like any other dumb-****. However, if the partner did not let the manager know a mistake had been made in scheduling, the partner is ALSO responsible for the end result.
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I didn't say that you were superhuman--But you need to own up to it and not punish people for it...
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Whenever I make a mistake, I own up to it...and I apologize, to boot! That has nothing to do with other partners taking their fair share of responsibility. Communication goes both ways.
Posted 4 years ago # -
No, i think you're missing the point--you cannot reprimand someone for a mistake you made. Consider this, what if a partner didn't look at that day because they are NEVER scheduled that day? Then what? Thats basically saying "oh i screwed up, but since you didn't look at that day, YOU ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE." That is totally ****-backwards...
Posted 4 years ago # -
Anyone who doesn't read the schedule when it is posted is asking for trouble....no matter what.
Posted 4 years ago # -
who cares?
Posted 4 years ago # -
Oh my god, you are outrageous about this... I'd be on the phone with Partner Resources and I'd refuse to sign any corrective action form you gave me...
Posted 4 years ago # -
Oh i don't mind reading the schedule when it is posted - and I note down exactly when I am scheduled. It is having to check the damn thing every freaking day to make sure it hasn't changed that drives me insane! And repeatedly having to point out i am scheduled days I am unavailable gets pretty old pretty fast too!
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It never matters if you sign a corrective action form. They are just as valid unsigned as signed. We just write "Partner Refused to Sign" where your signature goes. And not signing just usually serves to prove the point about lack of acceptance of responsibility on your behalf.
Posted 4 years ago # -
I firmly believe that once the schedule is posted, no changes should be made without asking the partners it would affect.
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