I want to leave SB like 5star did!
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Stop Whining and Face Facts
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Posted 4 years ago #
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I'm just at Sbux for a J.O.B. while i work on achieving my ultimate grandiose dreams for myself. problem is, it's pretty dadgum demanding. to get health insurance in this country, you have to damn near kill yourself. it don't make much sense ta me. if we had socialized medicine in this country, i wonder how many people would cast off the green apron for good, immediately?!!!???!!
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jobbamison: Socialized medicine is a disaster and anyone who says otherwise is lying or stupid. Ask the thousands of Canadians who cross our border every day to access healthcare. They die waiting for healthcare in Canada with an enormous beaurocracy and very little service on serious illnesses.
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Um, my husband is from europe, and even though taxes are high in his home country, EVERYONE has free healthcare and education because they believe their govt should take care its citizens.
But the responsibility for your general well-being doesn't fall solely on the the govt. It is up to the individual to take care themselves (eating healthy, etc), then the govt comes through in case something outside your control (car accident, cancer) should arise.
Yes, socialised healthcare would be a DISASTER here because of corruption and beaurocracy. Our politicians care more for windfall profits and special interest than our needs. But I don't think we should just dismiss the idea because we need help. Our health shouldn't have a price tag.Posted 4 years ago # -
It seems like capitalism-medicine is a disaster too. it's bankrupting our governments, not to mention our citizens. socialized medicine done well sounds pretty good to me. maybe we can improve on what the canadians have going. americans always talk about freedom, but what good is freedom if you're not healthy enough to enjoy it. i'm ill-equipped for belaboring this point, but I feel like too many folks are being left out in the cold as far as health-maintenance is concerned. many good docs don't even accept insurance anymore. they've gone to valet medicine for those who have the cash to pay retail. that ain't me.
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Jobbamison--Darkroast is right on socialized medicine. I know Canadians and I know for a fact that Canadians flood our border everyday trying to get health care in US. YOU DIE in Canada waiting for assistance--I repeat--YOU DIE in Canada waiting for health care. Our government cannot control our border, takes recesses while our troops die in foreign lands, bows to money and power and does nothing to fix any of our problems other than talk a little and play pitiful partisan politics, and cannot buy a toilet seat without spending hundreds of dollars. For every dollar spent in Iraq, 5 or 10 dollars are wasted or never get to the right people--Our government is not very good (that is being kind) in managing our monies and if you think (and I understand your dilemna on trying to find health care) that universal health care is an answer wait till you see what you will have after the government is done with it--it will probably "bankrupt" this country after all is said and done.
Your problems and those of several who have written to this blog are a function of having chosen to either not go to college or have gone to college and did not obtain a MEANINGFUL degree (one that will get you started on a REAL CAREER. If you are now working at SBUX and it is your primary job or even if it is a parttime position with no expectations for a step up to a real job, you have made some poor decisions. While you are still young enough, I would suggest you get your behind back to school and direct it toward academic experience (for a resume) and some kind of degree in a potentially growing area of business and then stick to it and show people how good you are. SBUX barista is not a real job (by that I mean making at least $50K per year) unless you really feel that a long term positive position is possible (highly unlikely). As this blog is titled, whining dosen't hack it in todays' world--you have to go out and grab the ring. The days when I graduated school (graduate engineer with only one job for 38 years) are long gone. It is a tough road and you have to be tough.Posted 4 years ago # -
Actually for a lot of people even with a business degree (most useless thing in the world!) the reality of the new work place with its flexible hours, modular teams etc is that Starbucks, call centres etc are as good as it is going to get. The people born later than about 1967 will in most cases not have a single life long career they willt rain and retrain 4 - 6 times and for most of them the best that will get them is emplotyment, not success on the definitions your generation is used to. There are a number of reputable academic writers who have produced papers saying this generation is going to be worse off than the generations before it. And that is even the people who are trying to get ahead, those who aren't striving are really going to suffer.
On the health care issue, there is never going to be enough money to buy all the health care everyone needs. Canada (and Australia and New Zealand which I am more familar with) ration by urgency/abilty to wait, the US rations by ability to pay. And as Job pointed out, some health providers in the US are now beginning to see insuranced patients as not worth dealing, they are only dealing with very very wealthy who can pay cash up front. The statistics say that you will probably die under both systems!
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FarFlung: You talk about SBUX and call centers as the only jobs available. Someone is in charge at all of these "meaningless jobs" and at all these call centers. Someone is in charge of all those in charge and so and so forth. These people did not get there by some form of osmosis and creatism--they got there with college degrees, marketplace intelligence and ability (in most cases). All of you baristas could have also been on that track, if you had chosen correctly, stuck to it, and showed ability. As this blog is titled, "whining" and feeling sorry for yourself does not hack it in this current world and marketplace--that is what SBUX wants from you so that you find it hard to leave your $8 per hour job mainly because of health benefits. If your business degree aint worth anything than you should be getting an MBA or some form of finance or legal expertise or get out of it all and become a tradesperson (everyone needs a plumber or an electrician or an HVAC dude or a mechanic and is willing to pay for it). Getting into a union that has governement clout (which means good $$) is another possibility.Bottom line--look hard for the $$ job and do what it takes to get there--no excuses.
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I was listening to a conversation in the cafe as I was cleaning yesterday. There are 6 or 7 high paid IT guys who will find out today they don't have jobs any more. From the project their managers were discussing and the salary figures they were tossing round most of these guys have 5+ year experience and will be paid $70K+. They will be umemployed at the end of the month. This is reality. The call centre I used to work at has just removed the 2IC positions from the teams as an effort to streamline and work more efficiently. Every hotel manager I interviewed for my Masters thesis spoke about the removal of junior and middle management positions. They thought it meant they weren't training their management properly but said they knew the flatter structures would stay for at least the next 10 years (in fact some were worried about their own career path being cut short as jobs moved off shore and jobs that used to be run in each country moving to regional centres ie instead of having 6 country managers there would be one regional manager). In speaking to my area maanger about management positions in Starbucks she was saying that the only positions likely to open in the next 2 years will be due to resignations. Not whining just saying that the path up isn't direct or easy. I would agree that a trade qualification is far more useful but even that is not a sure shot. Of course being somewhere with a decent public health system, I have far more ability to make the next lateral move to get where I am going. Sometimes you just have to do what you do to pay the bills and vent a little to let you stay sane - it is a means to an end not the end in itself!
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FarFlung: I truly wish you well. The business world today is different than when I entered same in 1962. Longevity, security, and loyalty on both the employer and employee end is almost non-existent. As long as you exhibit a "drive" for sucess and, as your last statement said, "it is a means to an end and not the end itself", I am very much in your corner and hope that the "end" is everything you wanted long term. The real shame is spending tens of thousands obtaining a college degree that is essentially worthless in its major unless it is reinforced with hands on semesters in some form of cooperative college/industry environment or leads to specialized advanced degrees in growing business areas/needs.
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